This article compares John Howard Yoder's understanding of the state with that of his putative heir, Stanley Hauerwas. Special attention is given to Yoder's understanding of the state as a power, a perspective not taken up by Hauerwas. Eberhard Jüngel's critique of theologies that demonize the state is brought to bear on Hauerwas' phantasmal conception of the state. After a brief discussion of William Cavanaugh's similar impressions of the modern state, the article proposes a rapprochement with non-Christian thinkers in line with Hauerwas' recent moves toward 'radical democracy'. This article compares John Howard Yoder's understanding of the state with that of his putative heir, Stanley Hauerwas. Special attention is given to Yoder's understanding of the state as a power, a perspective not taken up by Hauerwas. Eberhard Jüngel's critique of theologies that demonize the state is brought to bear on Hauerwas' phantasmal conception of the state. After a brief discussion of William Cavanaugh's similar impressions of the modern state, the article proposes a rapprochement with non-Christian thinkers in line with Hauerwas' recent moves toward 'radical democracy'.